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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 3:56:52 GMT
<img src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/superangry.png" alt=" " class="smile" text=" " See there = xenoversemods.com/mods/goku-jr-x2m/ I found this link from Hodeen and He gave this link of someone This pack contains so many mods like my ssb vegito and ssb kaiokenX10 goku(without my permission ) and Zamasu(fusion) by xan and so many mods How can be people like these ?
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 10:20:31 GMT
I found his video on youtube that modder name is Dandrich
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 10:26:57 GMT
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Post by eternity on Dec 10, 2016 11:31:57 GMT
If some of those x2m were not done by the author, I could do a blacklist of md5 (or better the guid) for next version of the installer, but I would need to know first if the x2m was done by the original author or if the guy of the video took the mod files and created a x2m package, I could only block the second case here.
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 11:33:20 GMT
That's better solution to prevent thief mod Thanks eternity then after your update I will give update to my mod updates!!
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 11:34:17 GMT
If some of those x2m were not done by the author, I could do a blacklist of md5 (or better the guid) for next version of the installer, but I would need to know first if the x2m was done by the original author or if the guy of the video took the mod files and created a x2m package, I could only block the second case here. (Xan )zamasu fusion x2m He make himself
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Post by Xan on Dec 10, 2016 12:16:03 GMT
We already know it .... He is from the French forum. I've tried to talk to him many times. But he is stubborn and do not want to stop this.
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Post by lelouch07 on Dec 10, 2016 12:50:57 GMT
mastaklo Sol Negro HeirTalent Xan Hey guys look at this video guy named Dandrich using our mod in his video mod pack !!! (Without our permission ) <img src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/superangry.png" alt=" " class="smile" text=" " We already know it .... He is from the French forum. I've tried to talk to him many times. But he is stubborn and do not want to stop this. does it even credit you or just took your mod and put his name on it on his pack?
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 12:59:55 GMT
We already know it .... He is from the French forum. I've tried to talk to him many times. But he is stubborn and do not want to stop this. Yeah that's not fair we need to make good security for our mods
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 13:01:15 GMT
We already know it .... He is from the French forum. I've tried to talk to him many times. But he is stubborn and do not want to stop this. does it even credit you or just took your mod and put his name on it on his pack? No he didn't credit us of all he took just all mod's and gave author name means creator package
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Post by eternity on Dec 10, 2016 13:22:48 GMT
XV2 Mods Installer 0.4 is due for release today late. I could make a test with Xan Zamasu fusion mod to test how he reacts.
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Post by lelouch07 on Dec 10, 2016 13:35:58 GMT
does it even credit you or just took your mod and put his name on it on his pack? No he didn't credit us of all he took just all mod's and gave author name means creator package really? that's so unfair :/ on storm 4 the problem was the same but peaple can't do anithing against that except maybe i took my storm 4 experience , in my old roster mod i encrypt my cpk with that nobody can extract it , is it possible maybe to make that system on xenoverse?
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 14:22:07 GMT
No he didn't credit us of all he took just all mod's and gave author name means creator package really? that's so unfair :/ on storm 4 the problem was the same but peaple can't do anithing against that except maybe i took my storm 4 experience , in my old roster mod i encrypt my cpk with that nobody can extract it , is it possible maybe to make that system on xenoverse? Eternity on his way to make security
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Post by holdonaminute on Dec 10, 2016 15:17:46 GMT
Woah woah woah. Hold on a minute
Are we really going to do this now? Why not just you know, report the guy on the Xenoversemods website, and have that mod taken down? Previous people who have stolen or used stolen mods have been reported and their mods have been taken down from the website.
Putting a system in place to prevent mods from being used or having some type of security is ridiculous. Hell I have used parts of peoples mods to help my own mods. But I have never uploaded it on youtube, or on any website. I have never shared it to the public. I'm sure countless people in this community have done the same to help better their mods, or use ideas. Hell even big youtubers have uploaded peoples mods and gave credit to the original person responsible.
Now we are just going to say **** it and have more added security? The guy could still upload the mod on youtube(because you make it public) without crediting so it doesn't solve the "issue" either way. Sorry but we not all modding experts. Some of us are beginners and intermediates, and we don't exactly have universal guides that explain everything about modding and can make us experts on modding for every game.
I really hope I am misinterpreting this. Because now I can't even enjoy working on mods on my own spare time? Even when said mods are released to the public? What if someone has a 2nd form demigra mod, but I want to improve it? Now that's not possible? What if someone does a mod, but I want to change the clothes on it? Now that's not possible. What about the Fused Zamasu mod that was released a good while ago? What if someone wants to use that base, and add in his mutated arm and body for when he fought Vegito? So we are just saying that customizing people's mods is now removed, just because of some bad apples?
What about people who don't really care if someone uses their mod for other things as long as they get credit? So now a universal thing is being added in that is speaking for them?
Because the issue to me is that people share other peoples mods without permission. but doing this hurts the modding community and it doesn't stop people from uploading mods on youtube w/o someones permission.
Because at that rate, you might as well make your mods patreon or buyable only. You know, turn some people away in order to make a profit. Oh wait, some people have already tried that, and some people have stopped that entirely.
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Post by eternity on Dec 10, 2016 16:40:36 GMT
What I was thinking wouldn't stop you from doing all those things. Not at all. It would only stop that specific x2m of Zamasu fusion, with that specific id, from being installed. If you had generated your own Zamasu fusion x2m from Xan mod, it will work, don't worry.
It is not really a "security", because unfortunaly there is no really way of doing a security without doing weird or dark things that could backfire. This would be easy to bypass, and as I said, it would only affect that instance of x2m. The same thing that is used to uniquely identify a mod (to distinguish between them) will be used for this test.
The test I will do is directed more towards shaming that guy and also seeing if he will still continue distrbuting the package, I want to see if he specifically generates the Zamasu fusion x2m again , which I would interpret as a definitive proof that he is saying "I don't care about any of you".
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Post by stalker on Dec 10, 2016 17:16:41 GMT
Yea I came across these guys the other day from youtube. The pack they have put together is just all round terrible. It's mostly poorly converted XV1 mods with some XV2 mods thrown in. Really sucks that people like this exist.
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 17:25:01 GMT
And I didn't understand they talked to sol negro they are doing for community then why the hell they can't make of themselves instead of using ours !!! Man That Dandrich guy is really annoying !!!
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Post by tonisbk on Dec 10, 2016 17:41:09 GMT
Excuse me i'm french so my english is not really good, it's been a while since i follow xenoverse's modders community i've seen a lot of thief take the job of other people and they say they are their own without any credits. Dandrich the modder who make this pack with the help of his community don't appropriate all of the mods he just wanted to do something for people who are not able to make packs or even convert characters from XV1 to x2m. It respects the work of the original modders and just wants to make things easier for the community. All of this is not for the purpose of making money or other and yet it takes a lot of time just like other modders. I do not have time to create mods or to convert all of them because of my studies I am happy to find this kind of things. You're all great modders, some of you make make mods in order to make money other no, but here's life. So guys i ask you just one thing i know i'm not important in the modder community but if you have'nt been credited in this pack, what i can't understand, dm me and i will talk to him personnaly but i can't tell him to delete some stuff on it maybe you can collaborate with him to make this pack greater it's not for him it's for your fan community. I love the work you did guys, you make this game complete.
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Post by eternity on Dec 10, 2016 17:49:22 GMT
The problem, tonisbk, is that that guy has been already contacted by at least one modder (plus a couples ones more in youtube), and so far he has chosen to ignore. If a modder doesn't feel comfortable with someone redistributing their mods in a package, he has the right for that. But this person has decided to ignore it.
He cannot claim anymore "I didn't want to cause any damage", because he has already done, he has been asked to stop and hasn't stopped. He is not doing this "for the community" becuse this kind of thing can actually destroy the community.
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 17:49:29 GMT
Excuse me i'm french so my english is not really good, it's been a while since i follow xenoverse's modders community i've seen a lot of thief take the job of other people and they say they are their own without any credits. Dandrich the modder who make this pack with the help of his community don't appropriate all of the mods he just wanted to do something for people who are not able to make packs or even convert characters from XV1 to x2m. It respects the work of the original modders and just wants to make things easier for the community. All of this is not for the purpose of making money or other and yet it takes a lot of time just like other modders. I do not have time to create mods or to convert all of them because of my studies I am happy to find this kind of things. You're all great modders, some of you make make mods in order to make money other no, but here's life. So guys i ask you just one thing i know i'm not important in the modder community but if you have'nt been credited in this pack, what i can't understand, dm me and i will talk to him personnaly but i can't tell him to delete some stuff on it maybe you can collaborate with him to make this pack greater it's not for him it's for your fan community. I love the work you did guys, you make this game complete. We are not talking about french (French person's are good ) ,,,,!!!!!!!!!Only(but that) Dandrich And We doesn't make our mod for money only for if we make mod paid content then reason is only to we want only support of you guys or nothing!!!
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