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Post by tonisbk on Dec 10, 2016 17:58:48 GMT
The problem, tonisbk, is that that guy has been already contacted by at least one modder (plus a couples ones more in youtube), and so far he has chosen to ignore. If a modder doesn't feel comfortable with someone redistributing their mods in a package, he has the right for that. But this person has decided to ignore it. He cannot claim anymore "I didn't want to cause any damage", because he has already done, he has been asked to stop and hasn't stopped. He is not doing this "for the community" becuse this kind of thing can actually destroy the community. Hm, i know the fact that it's too late for few thing but do you think if for exemple instead of putting directly the mods of some modders who not wanting to share in the pack directly to give the link of the site of download or the page of the mod on xenoverse mod ? |
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Post by tonisbk on Dec 10, 2016 18:04:57 GMT
Excuse me i'm french so my english is not really good, it's been a while since i follow xenoverse's modders community i've seen a lot of thief take the job of other people and they say they are their own without any credits. Dandrich the modder who make this pack with the help of his community don't appropriate all of the mods he just wanted to do something for people who are not able to make packs or even convert characters from XV1 to x2m. It respects the work of the original modders and just wants to make things easier for the community. All of this is not for the purpose of making money or other and yet it takes a lot of time just like other modders. I do not have time to create mods or to convert all of them because of my studies I am happy to find this kind of things. You're all great modders, some of you make make mods in order to make money other no, but here's life. So guys i ask you just one thing i know i'm not important in the modder community but if you have'nt been credited in this pack, what i can't understand, dm me and i will talk to him personnaly but i can't tell him to delete some stuff on it maybe you can collaborate with him to make this pack greater it's not for him it's for your fan community. I love the work you did guys, you make this game complete. We are not talking about french (French person's are good ) ,,,,!!!!!!!!!Only(but that) Dandrich And We doesn't make our mod for money only for if we make mod paid content then reason is only to we want only support of you guys or nothing!!! Oh it's okay do not worry I did not think so, I apologize for faults in advance. I can understand your point of view, you make mods and someone use them but he didn't credited you properly it's his fault i will talk with him about that. But trust me guys he's not a bad person who don't want to listen you he's like me a french and don't really know how to speak english well so what he said can be misinterpreted. |
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 18:12:27 GMT
Yeah I think so language makes so misunderstanding then if you have contact of him then ask him to join our community then we try to understand him !!! tonisbk |
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Post by tonisbk on Dec 10, 2016 18:19:45 GMT
No problem all of the modders of "our" community are ready to talk with all of you for the moment Dandrich is not online since days
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Post by darksoku on Dec 10, 2016 18:27:16 GMT
Hello everyone,
I was one of those who created the pack, I did not think it would go that far.
Have you checked if your mods have been credited? If not, I fully understand your opinions.
PS: I did not follow the whole discussion, sorry.
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 18:31:52 GMT
Your modpack team forget so many names to give credit for your team mod pack of youtube video
And even you guys didn't ask us before doing things like these We modder's hardly give our time to do mod But If we see like these and even doesn't see our credit and we didn't give permission even this happen it's feel like pain that thing happen to start no mods !!!
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Post by darksoku on Dec 10, 2016 18:37:16 GMT
Your modpack team forget so many names to give credit for your team mod pack of youtube video And even you guys didn't ask us before doing things like these We modder's hardly give our time to do mod But If we see like these and even doesn't see our credit and we didn't give permission even this happen it's feel like pain that thing happen to start no mods !!! I'll talk with Dandrich to see with him. You do not want to have your mods included in the pack, right? Otherwise, I would ask him to update his pack so that he credits all the modders that are included in the pack. Afterwards, if you do not want to see your mods appear in the pack, I would ask him to remove them. The French-English community is already quite difficult, I do not want it to get worse. Between modders, we should support ourselves. I'm sorry about that. |
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 18:48:07 GMT
Your modpack team forget so many names to give credit for your team mod pack of youtube video And even you guys didn't ask us before doing things like these We modder's hardly give our time to do mod But If we see like these and even doesn't see our credit and we didn't give permission even this happen it's feel like pain that thing happen to start no mods !!! I'll talk with Dandrich to see with him. You do not want to have your mods included in the pack, right? Otherwise, I would ask him to update his pack so that he credits all the modders that are included in the pack. Afterwards, if you do not want to see your mods appear in the pack, I would ask him to remove them. The French-English community is already quite difficult, I do not want it to get worse. Between modders, we should support ourselves. I'm sorry about that. Don't need to delete just need to ask permission I never say to anyone no I always give anyone to use but need to only credit that's it all in point of view !!! and credit my channel and name like Credits SK007 (for ssb vegetio and kaioken x10 goku) Channel : www.youtube.com/channel/UCPS6Cn3JsbVTlTuuCY-_44A?&ab_channel=DragonBallXenoverseMods |
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Post by Xan on Dec 10, 2016 18:49:09 GMT
Your modpack team forget so many names to give credit for your team mod pack of youtube video And even you guys didn't ask us before doing things like these We modder's hardly give our time to do mod But If we see like these and even doesn't see our credit and we didn't give permission even this happen it's feel like pain that thing happen to start no mods !!! I'll talk with Dandrich to see with him. You do not want to have your mods included in the pack, right? Otherwise, I would ask him to update his pack so that he credits all the modders that are included in the pack. Afterwards, if you do not want to see your mods appear in the pack, I would ask him to remove them. The French-English community is already quite difficult, I do not want it to get worse. Between modders, we should support ourselves. I'm sorry about that. ENG : Oh so you really think it ? Stop lying. You know as much as me that he doesn't care. I've asked him MULTIPLE times that I want him to remove my team's mods from his packs. And you know what ? He told me to get the f*** out. I've got screenshots. So stop saying that he will do something: he won't. FR : Oh, tu pense vraiment ce que tu dit là ? Arrête de te voiler la face. Tu sais tout aussi bien que moi qu'il s'en fout. Je lui ai demandé de NOMBREUSE fois qu'il enlève les mods de ma team du pack. Et devine quoi ? Il a dit d'aller me faire foutre. J'ai des screenshots à l'appuie. Donc arrête de dire qu'il fera quelque choses : il ne fera rien. |
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Post by darksoku on Dec 10, 2016 18:58:17 GMT
I'll talk with Dandrich to see with him. You do not want to have your mods included in the pack, right? Otherwise, I would ask him to update his pack so that he credits all the modders that are included in the pack. Afterwards, if you do not want to see your mods appear in the pack, I would ask him to remove them. The French-English community is already quite difficult, I do not want it to get worse. Between modders, we should support ourselves. I'm sorry about that. ENG : Oh so you really think it ? Stop lying. You know as much as me that he doesn't care. I've asked him MULTIPLE times that I want him to remove my team's mods from his packs. And you know what ? He told me to get the f*** out. I've got screenshots. So stop saying that he will do something: he won't. FR : Oh, tu pense vraiment ce que tu dit là ? Arrête de te voiler la face. Tu sais tout aussi bien que moi qu'il s'en fout. Je lui ai demandé de NOMBREUSE fois qu'il enlève les mods de ma team du pack. Et devine quoi ? Il a dit d'aller me faire foutre. J'ai des screenshots à l'appuie. Donc arrête de dire qu'il fera quelque choses : il ne fera rien. Xan, I do not know Dandrich personally. I am not aware of your conflict, I remind you that I work on mods too, so I do not necessarily see the conflicts between the modders. Besides, if you talk to him privately, I'll have a hard time knowing. You do not have to be so cold with me, I did not do anything to you as far as I know? I appreciate you a lot Xan, but be a little less brutal in your sentences, after it is perhaps I who takes it badly. I see with him, if it does not. I would find another solution.
FR : Xan, je ne connais pas Dandrich personnellement. Je ne suis pas au courant de votre conflit, je te rappelle que je bosse sur des mods moi aussi, donc je ne vois pas forcément les conflits entre les moddeurs. Et puis, si tu lui parle en privé, je vais avoir du mal à savoir. T'es pas obligé d'être aussi froid avec moi, je ne t'ai rien fait à ce que je sache ? Je t'apprécie beaucoup Xan, mais soit un peu moins brutal dans tes phrases, après c'est peut-être moi qui le prend mal. Je vois avec lui, si ça ne passe pas. Je trouverais une autre solution. |
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Post by SK007 on Dec 10, 2016 19:06:12 GMT
I'll talk with Dandrich to see with him. You do not want to have your mods included in the pack, right? Otherwise, I would ask him to update his pack so that he credits all the modders that are included in the pack. Afterwards, if you do not want to see your mods appear in the pack, I would ask him to remove them. The French-English community is already quite difficult, I do not want it to get worse. Between modders, we should support ourselves. I'm sorry about that. ENG : Oh so you really think it ? Stop lying. You know as much as me that he doesn't care. I've asked him MULTIPLE times that I want him to remove my team's mods from his packs. And you know what ? He told me to get the f*** out. I've got screenshots. So stop saying that he will do something: he won't. FR : Oh, tu pense vraiment ce que tu dit là ? Arrête de te voiler la face. Tu sais tout aussi bien que moi qu'il s'en fout. Je lui ai demandé de NOMBREUSE fois qu'il enlève les mods de ma team du pack. Et devine quoi ? Il a dit d'aller me faire foutre. J'ai des screenshots à l'appuie. Donc arrête de dire qu'il fera quelque choses : il ne fera rien. What really he used damn bad language against you !!! I think there supporter say he is good person now I didn't think he is good!!! |
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Post by Xan on Dec 10, 2016 19:47:05 GMT
ENG : Oh so you really think it ? Stop lying. You know as much as me that he doesn't care. I've asked him MULTIPLE times that I want him to remove my team's mods from his packs. And you know what ? He told me to get the f*** out. I've got screenshots. So stop saying that he will do something: he won't. FR : Oh, tu pense vraiment ce que tu dit là ? Arrête de te voiler la face. Tu sais tout aussi bien que moi qu'il s'en fout. Je lui ai demandé de NOMBREUSE fois qu'il enlève les mods de ma team du pack. Et devine quoi ? Il a dit d'aller me faire foutre. J'ai des screenshots à l'appuie. Donc arrête de dire qu'il fera quelque choses : il ne fera rien. Xan, I do not know Dandrich personally. I am not aware of your conflict, I remind you that I work on mods too, so I do not necessarily see the conflicts between the modders. Besides, if you talk to him privately, I'll have a hard time knowing. You do not have to be so cold with me, I did not do anything to you as far as I know? I appreciate you a lot Xan, but be a little less brutal in your sentences, after it is perhaps I who takes it badly. I see with him, if it does not. I would find another solution.
FR : Xan, je ne connais pas Dandrich personnellement. Je ne suis pas au courant de votre conflit, je te rappelle que je bosse sur des mods moi aussi, donc je ne vois pas forcément les conflits entre les moddeurs. Et puis, si tu lui parle en privé, je vais avoir du mal à savoir. T'es pas obligé d'être aussi froid avec moi, je ne t'ai rien fait à ce que je sache ? Je t'apprécie beaucoup Xan, mais soit un peu moins brutal dans tes phrases, après c'est peut-être moi qui le prend mal. Je vois avec lui, si ça ne passe pas. Je trouverais une autre solution. ENG : Sorry, I might have sounded aggressive on this message. It wasn't my objective, I apologize. But this whole modpack whitout permission situation is driving me insane. I've been trying to stop this scourge for 2 years now. It just make me so angry that people like Dandrich say it loud that he doesn't care that I don't want my mods in this pack. I hope you can sort things with him so he can understand, but I really doubt it to be honest. FR : Désolé, j'ai parue assez agressif sur ce message. Ce n'était pas mon objectif, je m'en excuse. Le problème c'est que cette situation de modpack sans permission me rends fou. Ça fait bientôt 2 ans que j'essaye de faire quelque chose contre ce fléau qui ronge petit à petit la communauté du modding. Ça me rends hors de moi de voir des personnes comme Dandrich dire haut et fort qu'il se fout de savoir que je ne veux pas voir mes mods dans ce pack. J’espère que tu pourra arranger les choses avec lui pour qu'il puisse comprendre. Mais pour être honnête avec toi ça m'étonnerais qu'il changera. |
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Post by darksoku on Dec 10, 2016 20:13:39 GMT
EN : Xan, I do not know Dandrich personally. I am not aware of your conflict, I remind you that I work on mods too, so I do not necessarily see the conflicts between the modders. Besides, if you talk to him privately, I'll have a hard time knowing. You do not have to be so cold with me, I did not do anything to you as far as I know? I appreciate you a lot Xan, but be a little less brutal in your sentences, after it is perhaps I who takes it badly. I see with him, if it does not. I would find another solution.
FR : Xan, je ne connais pas Dandrich personnellement. Je ne suis pas au courant de votre conflit, je te rappelle que je bosse sur des mods moi aussi, donc je ne vois pas forcément les conflits entre les moddeurs. Et puis, si tu lui parle en privé, je vais avoir du mal à savoir. T'es pas obligé d'être aussi froid avec moi, je ne t'ai rien fait à ce que je sache ? Je t'apprécie beaucoup Xan, mais soit un peu moins brutal dans tes phrases, après c'est peut-être moi qui le prend mal. Je vois avec lui, si ça ne passe pas. Je trouverais une autre solution. ENG : Sorry, I might have sounded aggressive on this message. It wasn't my objective, I apologize. But this whole modpack whitout permission situation is driving me insane. I've been trying to stop this scourge for 2 years now. It just make me so angry that people like Dandrich say it loud that he doesn't care that I don't want my mods in this pack. I hope you can sort things with him so he can understand, but I really doubt it to be honest. FR : Désolé, j'ai parue assez agressif sur ce message. Ce n'était pas mon objectif, je m'en excuse. Le problème c'est que cette situation de modpack sans permission me rends fou. Ça fait bientôt 2 ans que j'essaye de faire quelque chose contre ce fléau qui ronge petit à petit la communauté du modding. Ça me rends hors de moi de voir des personnes comme Dandrich dire haut et fort qu'il se fout de savoir que je ne veux pas voir mes mods dans ce pack. J’espère que tu pourra arranger les choses avec lui pour qu'il puisse comprendre. Mais pour être honnête avec toi ça m'étonnerais qu'il changera. I agree with you Xan, it's true that putting mods that belong to the modders and that have not received any permissions or credits is hard to see. I do not guarantee you anything, but I will try. FR : Je suis d'accord avec toi Xan, c'est vrai que le fait de mettre des mods qui appartiennent aux moddeurs et qui n'ont reçuent aucunes permissions ou crédits fait peine à voir. Je ne te garantie rien, mais je vais essayer. |
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Post by stalker on Dec 10, 2016 20:23:32 GMT
After people like Kataki and with the creation of x2m files I thought this shit would be over. The work that Z Team are doing is incredible and shitty XV1 port jobs are only going to serve to undermine the quality of the content in the modding scene and piss of the quality content creators. Frankly there isn't a lot that can be done sadly. You can report Youtube videos that share this content and you can report the content on the hosting site and as for Xenoversemods.com I guess you can remove the comments with people linking the content.
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Post by The Mad Titan on Dec 11, 2016 10:13:20 GMT
Your modpack team forget so many names to give credit for your team mod pack of youtube video And even you guys didn't ask us before doing things like these We modder's hardly give our time to do mod But If we see like these and even doesn't see our credit and we didn't give permission even this happen it's feel like pain that thing happen to start no mods !!! I'll talk with Dandrich to see with him. You do not want to have your mods included in the pack, right? Otherwise, I would ask him to update his pack so that he credits all the modders that are included in the pack. Afterwards, if you do not want to see your mods appear in the pack, I would ask him to remove them. The French-English community is already quite difficult, I do not want it to get worse. Between modders, we should support ourselves. I'm sorry about that. here is the thing nicko. we need immediate termination of that mod pack. gone for good. crediting is not enough when he went against our forum rules. and used the stuff that was released here. he could have asked first. but he didnt. here is the solution. take it away from french forum. remove dandrich from french forum for good/ban him if he doesnt listen. and please dont let french modders do stuff like that without asking permission again. after all you can do that right. you created the french forum . |
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Post by SK007 on Dec 11, 2016 10:16:03 GMT
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Post by darksoku on Dec 11, 2016 13:01:59 GMT
OK no worries. I'll do whatever it takes to fix it. If you can just quote the characters you did, it would help me greatly.  |
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Post by Val E Ryon on Dec 12, 2016 10:22:18 GMT
OK no worries. I'll do whatever it takes to fix it. If you can just quote the characters you did, it would help me greatly. Sorry to intrude on that discussion, but I have the feeling that the poimt we wanna make doesn't quite get emphasized enough in the previous posts. We wish nothing mlre than to see actual cooperation and colaboration in the community; not only in our own but with everyone who is interested in modding the game. Creditting a creator in a badly thrown together mod compilation is not much of a collaboration. If it is even against the explicit wish of the creator it is selfish and actually quite counterproductive. We are at a point where those who reupload our mods get credit for it in modpacks and/or showcase videos, because noone can track the original author anymore. Too many reuploads. This is frustrating and totally unnecessary! We are cooperative. We have that "ask for permission" rule for a reason, as far as I know in most cases we gave permission if someone wanted to use our mods as a base. All we wanna do is make sure there is some kind of basic respect present inside of a community we wanna feel at home in. That's why we are agaibst all those mod packs, not because we don't want people to enjoy our mods... |
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Post by blackdbxv on Dec 12, 2016 12:45:05 GMT
Hello I am Dandrich thank you in advance already not to block me and engage a dialogue, anyway you know I could always come back.
My intention is not bad, I have already packed for DBXV 1 by asking for your permission for most, unfortunately I have not always had the expected return.
I just re-adapt on this pack the mods of DBXV 1 on the 2
Authors are all in the .x2m file
In no case I own your mods
Sorry for my English, if we can discuss avoiding to banish me as was the case previously it would be nice of you
FR : Bonjour je suis Dandrich merci a l'avance deja de ne pas me bloquer et d'engager un dialogue, de toute facon vous savez que je pourrais toujours revenir.
Mon intention n'est pas mauvaise, j'ai deja fait des pack pour DBXV 1 en demandant votre autorisation pour la plupart, malheuresement je n'ai pas toujours eu le retour escompté.
J'ai juste réadapter sur ce pack les mods de DBXV 1 sur le 2
Les auteurs sont tous signifier dans le fichier .x2m
en aucun cas je m'approprie vos mods
Désolé pour mon Anglais, si nous pouvons discuter en évitant de me bannir comme ce fut le cas précédement ce serait gentil de votre part
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Post by Val E Ryon on Dec 12, 2016 13:05:01 GMT
Despite whatever your intentions are, you were asked to respect the authors decisions and our communities' rules. These rules are the terms on which modders active on our websites offer their work for download.
You have chosen to disregard this over and over again. Not getting the "expected return" doesn't mean you are welcome to do whatever you want.
Because of the way you have treated our team over the past 2 years you won'r receive any support or permission from any of us, therefore you are not to include any of the z team mods aswell as mods of other authors who don't give thekr permission in your mod packs.
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